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| Subcomandante Moises photo by Johana Utrera |
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| The discussion table 'The lookout's top: signs for tomorrow', part of the International Meetings of Resistance and Rebellion, headed by 'insurgent captain Marcos' and 'subcommander Moisés' (center) of the EZLN, yesterday, in San Cristóbal de las Casas. Photo Cuartoscuro 'The Collapse and the Day After' in Chiapas Dec. 30, 2024 Watch at Enlace Zapatista |
"We have to return to where there was life." Comandante Moises
La Jornada
https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2024/12/31/estados/los-pueblos-vuelven-a-los-cultivos-en-tierras-comunes-subrayan-zapatistas-9711
The towns are returning to the forms of organization of 50 years ago to carry out collective crops on “common lands,” said insurgent subcommander Moisés, of the Zapatista Army of National Liberation (EZLN).
He recalled that this was his grandparents' way of producing, but with the distribution of communal land, private property and social programs such as Sembrando Vida, the land was divided up until it was so small that it was not enough to provide an adequate income.
He said that the productive projects of the “bad government” caused the division of land in the countryside and the loss of the same when it was sold, as a consequence of the “capitalist system.”
"If there are 90 right-wingers in a community, there should be 90 small landowners, it meant dividing up the land, each one with his 20 hectares, that's what that bastard (Carlos) Salinas (de Gortari) said," he recalled.
The “bad government” made the peasants believe that with the privatization of the land they could become small, medium, large owners, national and transnational businessmen and even bankers.
The problem with the “piecemeal” of land was that some found water, others found wood, some found fertile land and others only found stones, which generated division and confrontations.
“That's when the towns began to divide, because they were united, there were communities that began to legalize the land,” he explained.
Then the farmers "began to group together and say that the commons are of no use, that we cannot plan, advance, develop. What they want is for us to fight among ourselves," Subcommander Moisés said.
However, he clarified, there are particularities and regulations in the work of “common land” so that everyone can take advantage of and obtain their crops of corn, coffee, sugar cane, beans or others. “We have to return to where there was life,” he stressed.
For his part, insurgent captain Marcos stated that three decades after the armed uprising, the EZLN must consider the direction of the fight against capitalism and how to survive the panorama of destruction that is coming, even in the face of a possible nuclear war.
Fighting vision for a century: Captain Marcos
On the second day of the Resistance and Rebellion meetings, on the eve of the 31st anniversary of his public appearance, Marcos warned that in 1994 the choice they had was “between death and death,” because “either we die fighting or we die forgotten.” But now, and facing the next century, “the declaration for life is not between death and death, it is what are we going to do?”, the EZLN leader said.
He warned that the situation in the communities is horrific due to the threat of organized crime, the sinking of the towns into poverty due to the privatization of the territory and the damage to the environment.
He condemned the fact that governments encourage the division of people between good people and "fifís"; migrants against residents; and it seems that they are fomenting "a civil war."
He cited the threats of mass deportations by Donald Trump, the president-elect of the United States, as an example, which could create a serious problem for the inhabitants of that country. “Let the good people fight each other, kill each other, destroy whatever they can,” he criticized.
Capitalist governments, meanwhile, are preparing to survive the global “collapse” by creating private reservoirs to house those who have the means, and the use of artificial intelligence seems to have the purpose of accelerating natural selection by replacing the human hand in various productive activities, the captain added .
“ We indigenous peoples are excluded, those who are left over”
“We, the indigenous peoples, are the excluded, the surplus, those who do not produce and do not consume. Well, welcome to reality because a good part of humanity is going there,” he said. But capitalism aims to preserve the lives of producers and consumers, and “for that it needs private property.”
He said there is hope and that is in the youth having a greater participation “although Televisa says that there are no more youth” in the Zapatista villages.
She urged that differences be put aside, that there be unity between men and women, between friends and “enemies,” between feminists and sexists, communists and anarchists, among others.
"They have to choose first whether we are going to fight each other (.) The declaration for life recognizes the differences and establishes a common objective (.) we have a purpose which is to destroy a system," he stressed.
This search for a common goal even transcends borders and languages, as the Zapatistas did on their tour of Europe.
Marcos said he is aware that the Zapatistas make mistakes and assume the consequences, and that is why we do not aspire to a perfect world, “but we do believe that conditions for that can be created everywhere.”
That is why he reiterated that the vision must be long-term – 120 years – so that after the “collapse” there will be men and women who say: 'there is another option', and not just the “all-powerful capitalism that is everywhere.”
Organizations show the world “their geographies”
Hence the importance of meetings like this one so that groups can show the world the new ways of life they are building in “their geographies.”
He said that in order to continue sharing these struggles, another meeting could be held in the middle of next year in the context of the 20th anniversary of the sixth declaration of the Lacandon Jungle.
“Desperation before 1994 was the crossroads between death and death; that is, choosing the way to die. The declaration of life is in the face of the crossroads of history, repeating what has already been done or risking something else,” he said.
https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2024/12/31/estados/los-pueblos-vuelven-a-los-cultivos-en-tierras-comunes-subrayan-zapatistas-9711
The towns are returning to the forms of organization of 50 years ago to carry out collective crops on “common lands,” said insurgent subcommander Moisés, of the Zapatista Army of National Liberation (EZLN).
He recalled that this was his grandparents' way of producing, but with the distribution of communal land, private property and social programs such as Sembrando Vida, the land was divided up until it was so small that it was not enough to provide an adequate income.
He said that the productive projects of the “bad government” caused the division of land in the countryside and the loss of the same when it was sold, as a consequence of the “capitalist system.”
"If there are 90 right-wingers in a community, there should be 90 small landowners, it meant dividing up the land, each one with his 20 hectares, that's what that bastard (Carlos) Salinas (de Gortari) said," he recalled.
The “bad government” made the peasants believe that with the privatization of the land they could become small, medium, large owners, national and transnational businessmen and even bankers.
The problem with the “piecemeal” of land was that some found water, others found wood, some found fertile land and others only found stones, which generated division and confrontations.
“That's when the towns began to divide, because they were united, there were communities that began to legalize the land,” he explained.
Then the farmers "began to group together and say that the commons are of no use, that we cannot plan, advance, develop. What they want is for us to fight among ourselves," Subcommander Moisés said.
However, he clarified, there are particularities and regulations in the work of “common land” so that everyone can take advantage of and obtain their crops of corn, coffee, sugar cane, beans or others. “We have to return to where there was life,” he stressed.
For his part, insurgent captain Marcos stated that three decades after the armed uprising, the EZLN must consider the direction of the fight against capitalism and how to survive the panorama of destruction that is coming, even in the face of a possible nuclear war.
Fighting vision for a century: Captain Marcos
On the second day of the Resistance and Rebellion meetings, on the eve of the 31st anniversary of his public appearance, Marcos warned that in 1994 the choice they had was “between death and death,” because “either we die fighting or we die forgotten.” But now, and facing the next century, “the declaration for life is not between death and death, it is what are we going to do?”, the EZLN leader said.
He warned that the situation in the communities is horrific due to the threat of organized crime, the sinking of the towns into poverty due to the privatization of the territory and the damage to the environment.
He condemned the fact that governments encourage the division of people between good people and "fifís"; migrants against residents; and it seems that they are fomenting "a civil war."
He cited the threats of mass deportations by Donald Trump, the president-elect of the United States, as an example, which could create a serious problem for the inhabitants of that country. “Let the good people fight each other, kill each other, destroy whatever they can,” he criticized.
Capitalist governments, meanwhile, are preparing to survive the global “collapse” by creating private reservoirs to house those who have the means, and the use of artificial intelligence seems to have the purpose of accelerating natural selection by replacing the human hand in various productive activities, the captain added .
“ We indigenous peoples are excluded, those who are left over”
“We, the indigenous peoples, are the excluded, the surplus, those who do not produce and do not consume. Well, welcome to reality because a good part of humanity is going there,” he said. But capitalism aims to preserve the lives of producers and consumers, and “for that it needs private property.”
He said there is hope and that is in the youth having a greater participation “although Televisa says that there are no more youth” in the Zapatista villages.
She urged that differences be put aside, that there be unity between men and women, between friends and “enemies,” between feminists and sexists, communists and anarchists, among others.
"They have to choose first whether we are going to fight each other (.) The declaration for life recognizes the differences and establishes a common objective (.) we have a purpose which is to destroy a system," he stressed.
This search for a common goal even transcends borders and languages, as the Zapatistas did on their tour of Europe.
Marcos said he is aware that the Zapatistas make mistakes and assume the consequences, and that is why we do not aspire to a perfect world, “but we do believe that conditions for that can be created everywhere.”
That is why he reiterated that the vision must be long-term – 120 years – so that after the “collapse” there will be men and women who say: 'there is another option', and not just the “all-powerful capitalism that is everywhere.”
Organizations show the world “their geographies”
Hence the importance of meetings like this one so that groups can show the world the new ways of life they are building in “their geographies.”
He said that in order to continue sharing these struggles, another meeting could be held in the middle of next year in the context of the 20th anniversary of the sixth declaration of the Lacandon Jungle.
“Desperation before 1994 was the crossroads between death and death; that is, choosing the way to die. The declaration of life is in the face of the crossroads of history, repeating what has already been done or risking something else,” he said.
Read more:
Day 1
Live from Chiapas: Resistance and Rebellion
Marcos speaks on the history of the past 31 years, the destruction of nature for capitalism, and how the resistance continues. By Censored News.
Day 2
Zapatista Women Feel the Freedom: Autonomy and Balance, Rebellion and Resistance
Zapatista Community Leaders at Rebellion and Resistance
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